Looking for some sign mounting tips.

[JeepGuy]

Making a sign thats 7 seperate letters and a logo, the customer wants them mounted about 1.5" off the wall, its drywall , whats the best/easiest way to make that happen?

[adbuch]

Will this be a permanent mounting or does the customer want them removable? For semi-permanent, I would think that drywall anchors would work. Then attach your standoffs or whatever to the anchors.
David

[djreiswig]

How big are the pieces? If they're not too heavy, some kind of 3M tape might work. You would have to make standoffs of some sort.

[Joe Jones]

Spot weld small metal brackets to the rear of the letters. Illustration is NOT drawn to proportion. Concept Drawing ONLY.

INSURE that metal brackets for each letter or shape can support the weight without bending down!

Position brackets so they CANNOT be seen looking straight at the sign. Letters 1-1/2" off of the wall means the brackets WILL be seen when looking at the letters from an angle. Paint the brackets the same color as the wall to make them less obvious.

Lay out the letters and LOGO on a large sheet of paper (white paper or butcher paper, etc.) Align the entire design on the paper.

Mark the top center radius of each bracket slot on the paper.

Tape paper to wall LEVEL. Poke though paper to mark spots on wall.

Use small machine thread drywall anchors. Put anchors through drywall, pinch down anchors on rear side.

Back threaded screws out a bit, hang the letters and retighten them.

Avoid wall studs if possible. Use a wood screw in place of any anchor that hits a wall stud.

Joe

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[DieselFumes]

Drywall would be a but if a tough on with it being raised off 1.5". Joe's idea above seems like a good solution.

[Joe Jones]

Drywall would be a but if a tough on with it being raised off 1.5". Joe's idea above seems like a good solution.

Thank you for the compliment!

You can either make the brackets out of thicker metal and weld them to the rear of the letters, or make them out of thinner metal, and give them some side flanges to resist bending down under the weight of the metal they support.

Joe

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[Joe Jones]

OR you could just BUY curtain rod brackets and modify them to suit your needs. These brackets allow you to ADJUST the distance from the wall. They will also allow you to compensate for a wall that is not completely FLAT or perfectly vertical. Cut off the hook end below the screw, bend the remaining tab to 90 degrees, tack weld it to the rear of the letter, OR use something like FAST DRY JB WELD COMPOUND if you do not want to weld them, or you have already painted or powder coated them, or chrome plated them, and welding is no longer an option.


Make sure the JB WELD COMPOUND is on the METAL LOAD, and not only bonded to a coat of paint or something that can flake off of the load under the weight.

DO NOT cut off the metal below the key slot. this will INCREASE the leverage the letter has to pull the anchor out of the wall, and you do not want that.

WARNING! Before QUOTING this job, count the number of brackets you will need. These brackets are NOT CHEAP! and JB WELD COMPOUND is 'SPENSIVE, LUCY!

Joe

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[Joe Jones]

How big are the pieces? If they're not too heavy, some kind of 3M tape might work. You would have to make standoffs of some sort.

Adhesive tape ONLY works when the load is flush with the wall, and you use a LOT of adhesive tape. Brackets that hold the load AWAY FROM the wall create LEVERAGE, and as the tape heats up and succumbs to humidity and such, the letters WILL fall off of the wall.

Joe



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[djreiswig]

How big are the pieces? If they're not too heavy, some kind of 3M tape might work. You would have to make standoffs of some sort.

Adhesive tape ONLY works when the load is flush with the wall, and you use a LOT of adhesive tape. Brackets that hold the load AWAY FROM the wall create LEVERAGE, and as the tape heats up and succumbs to humidity and such, the letters WILL fall off of the wall.

Joe



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See my first question? If the letters are a couple of inches tall, then I don't see why tape wouldn't work. Especially if they are aluminum. A lot of missing details...

[Joe Jones]

Lettering this 2 inches tall would be not be mounted an inch and a half off of the wall surface.

Jeep guy, tell us a little more about your project. I am assuming that you are going to create letters and a logo that mount on a wall, such as behind a receptionist desk, or outside along the wall as you walk into an entry or perhaps in a lobby. I am guessing that the letters are between nine and 12 inches tall and the logo is probably 18 to 24 inches in diameter. How far off am I?

Joe



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[djreiswig]

I am guessing that the letters are between nine and 12 inches tall and the logo is probably 18 to 24 inches in diameter.

Joe, can you tell us what the sign is gonna say? It's 7 letters.
Maybe it's J E E P G U Y

[Joe Jones]

Joe, can you tell us what the sign is gonna say? It's 7 letters.
Maybe it's J E E P G U Y

Making a sign thats 7 seperate letters and a logo, the customer wants them mounted about 1.5" off the wall, its drywall , whats the best/easiest way to make that happen?

Unless he has a split personality, I am guessing that he is doing this for someone else.

Joe


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[djreiswig]

Gotcha. But since you have figured out what the sign is gonna look like, I figured you might wanna share what it's gonna say.

[Joe Jones]

Gotcha. But since you have figured out what the sign is gonna look like, I figured you might wanna share what it's gonna say.

BROTHEL

Joe



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[Joe Jones]

I figure it will be something like this ...

Joe

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[djreiswig]

Gotcha. But since you have figured out what the sign is gonna look like, I figured you might wanna share what it's gonna say.

BROTHEL

Joe



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[JeepGuy]

Joe your pretty close, in a conference room. Space available is 4'. This is the name and logo.

[adbuch]

Drywall anchors are "your friend".
David

[Joe Jones]

Drywall anchors are "your friend".
David

I absolutely HATE sheetrock! It is cheap to install, and easy to repair, but a total PITA to work with. When I finish off the four guest bedroom suites on the second floor of the Frankenbarn, the walls will all be 1/2" quality grade plywood with some durable exterior surface applied.

Joe



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[ROKCRLER]

Heres another cool "french cleat" mount
Found on facebook, it wouldnt let me put the link...
A couple spotwelds and done...

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[Plasma-art]

Heres another cool "french cleat" mount

I really like that mounting system.
They are prety expensive over here and but easy to make a bunch..
Might be worth to get a set of press dies made to bend them in one go.

[ROKCRLER]

Heres another cool "french cleat" mount

Might be worth to get a set of press dies made to bend them in one go.

I was thinking the same thing, im making a press die to make my 'trick tabs' for mounting panels on rollcages.

[adbuch]

A little bit off the original topic, but for mounting very light weight pictures on interior walls perhaps these could be 3D printed. Just a thought.
David