Gorilla Machines

[djreiswig]

Glad to hear you got it going.

[tdarn1]

I have a used gorilla machine for sale if anyone needs any parts , no software, needs a gecko drive , everything else is in good shape , bought a new 8ft table.
Tdarn1@gmail.com

[nobrainer357]

I have a spare gecko drive if you want to buy it. Im currently trying to get my gorilla machines table working and bought it and found it want the problem.

[nobrainer357]

I've had the gorilla machines table for 3 years, and out of now where the table stopped working. In the diag screen, it shows all of the limits being triggered and the ports show no green boxes. I've already replaced the gecko 540 and the uc100. Can anyone please give me some advice... beside burning this thing to the ground.

[bc56845]

A friend of mine sent me a screen shot from facebook this morning(I dont have facebook) about someone with this exact problem on a Gorilla table and the problem was the kernel speed being set wrong. Whoever posted said the Kernel speed needed to be 35K hz. But, my gorilla table is set at 45K Hz and its working. Was that you?

[tcaudle]

There are tiny elves that sneak around at night and fix things but beware because there are bad elves that will break things . Sometimes leaving it set will alert the good elves and its working again. Once the bad elves let the blue smoke out of the electronics the good elves can't make it work

[djreiswig]

Somebody told me that when they make each one of those electronic parts they put a little bit of smoke inside to make them function. Once the smoke gets out they don't work anymore, and it's impossible to put it back inside.

[Dooggins1]

Anybody out there have the correct parameter for these damn machines. I tried the one in here and still can get the other y motor to move at all. It worked great and ai deleted the computer I had it on because I was selling it. Went to reload everything now it can’t find the driver. Any help is appreciated. It was working great until I did that.

[adbuch]

Anybody out there have the correct parameter for these damn machines. I tried the one in here and still can get the other y motor to move at all. It worked great and ai deleted the computer I had it on because I was selling it. Went to reload everything now it can’t find the driver. Any help is appreciated. It was working great until I did that.

Good luck!

David

[Dooggins1]

well i got it moving correctly but cant get any of my limit/ home switches to work

[Dooggins1]

Update again....got my limit switches going but when i ref all home the switch on the probe does not work when it goes down to touch material. it would just keep trying to lower if i let it.

[tcaudle]

Touch off is not a reference move. Typically the Z swith is setup as a Probe function and tha is ignored on a Home move.
IF the Z switch is setup as a Z home it should stop just like the others . If its not, take that call out of the Homing macro.

What an input does (its Function) when its tripped is determined by the function Name in the Posts and Pins .Input Signals

[Dooggins1]

Touch off is not a reference move. Typically the Z swith is setup as a Probe function and tha is ignored on a Home move.
IF the Z switch is setup as a Z home it should stop just like the others . If its not, take that call out of the Homing macro.

What an input does (its Function) when its tripped is determined by the function Name in the Posts and Pins .Input Signals

Ok so I can get the probe to go down but when it touches the metal it stops immediately because it throws it in alarm like as if I hit a limit switch. I can go to the diagnostics page and when I lift up on the torch mount the digitize light come on as well as the emergency light. I think this asnewers your question?

[tcaudle]

What may be confiding is : MACH has Physical (hardware ) inputs an it has LOGICAL (software Inputs ) a Physical Input is physically connected to a PORT and PIN number via a Breakout Board . A logic input just has a Name (i.e. INPUT 1) . like a big switchboard, you can assign any Physical Input to any Logic input and to get further confusing you can assign the same Physical input (Port and Pin) to multiple Logical inputs . While Inputs MAY have names, to help (like "X HOME") its JUST a name and can be connected to any sensor or switch and be mapped to any input the logic inputs. Confused?

You have to understand that when you call an action using a G code or a button (like a HOME or a Touch off) that the software is looking for an input that gives that Function when its tripped . So if you HOME an axis it wants a HOME function on the input of that logical Input . Now, You can mix functions (well, some functions like Home and Limits) . . If you have an input set as a Limit and do a Home, it ignores the Input . If you have it set as BOTH it will trip a Home if you DO a HOME move stops amd may offset but otherwise it acts as a Limit during other types of moves. So what about a PROBE (touch off)? If an input is designated as a PROBE (only) it only trips when you actually DO a Probe move from code or a special screen button. What you can do in MACH , if I remember, is you can also assign that same physical input to do a home or a limit so if you are NOT doing a Probe move it instead performs the other assigned function . So you need to look at your Ports and Pins and Inputs Signals and se what INPUT trips when you do the manual trip (it its more than one then note that) and see what each input FUNCTION is assigned. Lets say you have input 2 assigned to Port 1 pin 4 (that is a physical input on you input card) and its function is Home. It will trip anytime that input goes active but iot wont DO anything unless the Function type is being done . It ignores the input if it not being called from a HOME call . If more than one iMACH input is assigned ott he same physical Poert and pin (say port 1 pin 4) its an "OR" situation so either / or function can be trpped by that input ifthe type of callis made . It can get confusing because the software ignores an input if the type of move is not being done.

The Probe (Tocuh off) in MACH is a G31 ( I think...) where as a HOME is a G28.1

Home buttons typically don't do touch off . You have to have a special button that calls the G31 along with the axis ito move
What you CAN do is have more than one sensor and use two different inputs with two different assigned functions . If all you have is ONE sensor for Home and for touch off you have to be aware of what causes what and when
Word of advise: Do not mess around in all of the settings on a working Profile. Make a Clone of your Working Profile (XML) under another name and mess with THAT . MACH keeps a backup of Profiles in the XML Backus folder but every time
you make a change it stores a numbered copy

soo....
PHYSICAL INPUT (Port and PIN ) -> LOGICAL INPUT (in Ports and Pins chart) ->FUNCTION (what it does when active)
Hope that helps. If you input card has LEds to show ehn its active that helps and then the Diagnostics can show the physical signal if its getting to the software . after that its up to where and how its assigned in the chart.

[weldguy]

Great info and enjoyable read, thanks Tom. The recent posts in this topic deserve to be in a separate topic I think.