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I've tried to take a wack at drawing my sons dog for an xmas present for him and his girlfriend. I have a feeling that some of you can do much better than me or can possibly improve on what I currently have drawn.

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I think you have done well with it, not an easy one to do that's for sure. This is one of those designs where I think capturing shawdows and/or darker areas of the face would be better than just drawing the details if you know what I mean. I am a little swamped this afternoon or I would have go at it for you.
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plasmanewbie wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:11 pm I think you have done well with it, not an easy one to do that's for sure. This is one of those designs where I think capturing shawdows and/or darker areas of the face would be better than just drawing the details if you know what I mean. I am a little swamped this afternoon or I would have go at it for you.

Thank you for the critique, I honestly don't have much of an eye for this kinda drawing, but I'll keep experimenting to see if I can come up with something better. Take it easy and have a great week.
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I saw this yesterday, decided to try to help then the crap hit the fan :HaHa Your beginning isn't bad at all, looks similar to my take. Discerning the details to draw can be challenging with pics like this. I've found that once I have the eyes and general details of the face in place I can then open up other areas like the forehead, cheek and snout to balance the drawing out and give it that shadow effect I believe plasmanewbie is describing. Unfortunately this is where I had to stop for now.
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Alonzo83 - What drawing program are you using? I think your drawing is pretty good - I added a transparent fill color and placed your drawing over your original photo - along with Ben's partial trace for comparison. Ben has a real flare for drawing these sorts of things, and I will look forward to seeing his finished result. In the mean time, it is fun to learn as you go - and I think you have made some very good progress with your drawing.

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adbuch wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:48 am Alonzo83 - What drawing program are you using? I think your drawing is pretty good - I added a transparent fill color and placed your drawing over your original photo - along with Ben's partial trace for comparison. Ben has a real flare for drawing these sorts of things, and I will look forward to seeing his finished result. In the mean time, it is fun to learn as you go - and I think you have made some very good progress with your drawing.

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Morning David, You guys are drawing on a whole other level. I am using proge cad. I have inkscape but haven't bothered to learn it as most of the time I am making a technical drawing or drawing inanimate objects like tractors, when it comes to contours and shadows I fall flat on my face.

I am going to download your guys images and take another crack at it, I'll see if I can push my skills a little farther with the help you guys have given me.

Thank you both very much .
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Very nice Ben, that looks great, I would be satisfied with cutting it just like that.
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Again David, I thank you for the compliment. Unfortunately I haven't had any more time to devote to this project but I intend to work on it a bit this afternoon should all go according to plan. If I have the time I'd like to do a video.

Alonzo83 - Thank you for the compliment also. If you keep trying you will get it. I worked with my hands as a fabricator for more than 20 years before I got my plasma table. The process that led me to where I am today was excruciating at times. :HaHa I've never heard of proge CAD so I can't assist there. If you'd like to play with what I have so far you're welcome to it. Currently she's scaled to about 15"x16". If you can import/open this .pdf it contains my drawing overlying the image, otherwise I've included the .dxf. I always start with the profile when drawing, then move to the interior details. That allows me to show the fill and check my progress as I go. I don't take the time to draw it perfectly at first, instead I'll draw these details as quickly as I can then come back to make everything as perfectly appealing as possible. When it comes to working with shadows it helps to have have them to go by, :HaHa unlike in this image. Often it can help to make the pic B&W and/or manipulate the brightness of the image to make these highlights stand out.

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plasmanewbie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:15 am Very nice Ben, that looks great, I would be satisfied with cutting it just like that.
You're too kind Newbie, thank you. It's not far off from where I think it should be. Just a few more details to round it out, like you said with the shadow effect. Once the OP can draw/highlight the main details in online fashion as has been done (how I started) the next thing to play with is opening them up to make them stand out.
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ben de lappe wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:33 am If I have the time I'd like to do a video.


If you make a video I'd love to watch it. There is a lot of videos for inkscape, but not many of them cater to this industry. Last time I went hunting for videos there was a lot of chaff to sort through regarding 3d modeling and what not.
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alonzo83 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:21 am
ben de lappe wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:33 am If I have the time I'd like to do a video.


If you make a video I'd love to watch it. There is a lot of videos for inkscape, but not many of them cater to this industry. Last time I went hunting for videos there was a lot of chaff to sort through regarding 3d modeling and what not.
Ben - I would love to see it as well!!

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I'm trying to put it together guys. Unfortunately I can't work this file exclusively at the moment because I perviously committed myself to completing three files asap for a 6yo child's memorial and am having to squeeze in 'Delilia' sessions as I can. I'm recording my progress/process and look forward to sharing it with you soon.
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ben de lappe wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:08 pm I'm trying to put it together guys. Unfortunately I can't work this file exclusively at the moment because I perviously committed myself to completing three files asap for a 6yo child's memorial and am having to squeeze in 'Delilia' sessions as I can. I'm recording my progress/process and look forward to sharing it with you soon.
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ben de lappe wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:08 pm I'm trying to put it together guys. Unfortunately I can't work this file exclusively at the moment because I perviously committed myself to completing three files asap for a 6yo child's memorial and am having to squeeze in 'Delilia' sessions as I can. I'm recording my progress/process and look forward to sharing it with you soon.
Don't spread yourself to thin, honestly you have done a great job with what you drew already I'm sure my kids will be happy with this. But I am still looking forward to that inkscape tutorial.

Many thanks Ben.
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alonzo83 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:38 am

Don't spread yourself to thin, honestly you have done a great job with what you drew already I'm sure my kids will be happy with this. But I am still looking forward to that inkscape tutorial.

Many thanks Ben.
No worries at all and you're most welcome. The number of hours I put into drawing every day would drive a sane person absolutely crazy. :HaHa So for me it helps to have something fresh like Delilia to work on when things get a bit monotonous. Well to me it's a break... :Yay

I use Torchmate CAD primarily for drawing, so the video I produce won't necessarily give you a step by step tutorial but it will show you what I look for detail wise and how I represent it drawing node by node with the mouse. Inkscape being somewhat similar, actual instruction will take a pro like David, Tom, etc.
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As a total beginner to plasma art i am fast learning that less is best. Lots of details can ruin the finished piece.
I have hand cut many dog memorials and headstones, unlike people the piece doesn’t need to be exactly the same. I always incorporate the dogs name so nobody has to guess and some sort of tig welded bedazzle

Stainless filler and a little polishing pops against black or raw metal
There’s potential to make the tiara 3d with wire and a few glued or epoxied jewels

Anyway food for thought and I know your family will love it, handmade gifts are the best
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