Does Water Levels in the plasma table affect Plasma Arc Voltage?

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Does Water Levels in the plasma table affect Plasma Arc Voltage?

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I am in the stages of learning as much as I can before putting together a plan on a plasma table build. Looked at scrap metal prices today. I can get steel for $0.50 / lbs regardless of type like tube, angle iron, plate etc. Anyway, While doing my research I have wondered if the water level in the water table can or does affect the arc voltage similar to how the gas in the jet stream can affect the arc voltage?

I was reading up on the Pierce Height, Cut Height, Height Control Explained Authored by Jim Colt.

In the article he describes how Gas pressure can effect arc voltage. see below

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1. Gas pressure fluctuation. Changing gas pressure changes the resistance of the plasma arc, which changes the arc voltage.
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In my experience water level has little to no effect. that being said I normally keep the level in the same place (just licking the bottom of the stock)
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FabLab how do you combat water splash with the water column so high?
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N2 Welding wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:49 pm FabLab how do you combat water splash with the water column so high?
Jim Colt is not a big fan of water tables where the torch and/or consumables get wet. I run a water tray/draft system on my Plasmacam table, but the water level is well below the cutting grates. As such there is no problem with the water affecting the arc voltage.

David

PS - Here is a link to my water table build, just in case you are interested.

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@adbuch, That table looks familiar, like one I saw on YouTube earlier today. Nice shop full of nice tools btw. I took a quick look at your linkand saw enough to know that you have a very special build with Cleco’s and all that. I’ll have to boot up a pc to browse all the pics in better detail. Thank you for sharing :)
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zowie that is a lot of welding on your table David. I get a 5' X 10' sheet of 18 Ga cut off a foot and notch the corners. I get a shop to bend up the sides and weld the corner closed, run a 1/2 square tube along the side edges. install a drain and have a removable grate setup.
But as DIY types we build what we want, yours looks great. :Yay
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N2 Welding wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:49 pm FabLab how do you combat water splash with the water column so high?
I am not sure I understand your question, but there is really nothing to combat, there is a little water that comes up thru the kerf but nothing I would consider excessive.

I added the water table about 2 years after I built the table & I didn't notice any difference in consumable wear after adding the water table.

Hope that helps.
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acourtjester wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:32 am zowie that is a lot of welding on your table David. I get a 5' X 10' sheet of 18 Ga cut off a foot and notch the corners. I get a shop to bend up the sides and weld the corner closed, run a 1/2 square tube along the side edges. install a drain and have a removable grate setup.
But as DIY types we build what we want, yours looks great. :Yay
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Tom - I built my water tray from 11 ga. steel, so probably too thick to bend and keep nice sharp corners. I wanted it thick, so it will last a while. So far it is holding up fine. I was on a budget. If cost was no option, then I would have gone with thinner stainless steel and bent/welded. Nice job there on your build!!

David
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