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very cool air?

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i have this issue with my cutter (hypertherm 85 ) when i increase the speed up to what listed in the manual , i can not reach even the recommended speed . every other sittings is OK ( pierce height , pierce delay time , cutting height , air pressure ...etc) . i note that i can reach the recommended speed in the manual at the midday (warm weather ) . is this happen because of very cool air (out from freezer) or wrong filtration system (water in the air line into the cutter). i use a homebuilt air dryer as attached , nowadays i put the exchanger out of the freezer to have a little bit cool air .
i need to increase the speed up to good cutting because a have a lot of cuts every day and no care about the quality . (8 h a day )
an advice ?
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The cut speeds in the Hypertherm manual are correct....assuming that you have the correct air pressure on the inlet to the plasma (air temperature will make no difference), are using the consumables as recommended on the cut charts (genuine Hypertherm) and are at the correct physical cut height. From the looks of your cuts...either air pressure is too low...or the torch is too far from the material.


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hardsteel wrote:i have this issue with my cutter (hypertherm 85 ) when i increase the speed up to what listed in the manual , i can not reach even the recommended speed . every other sittings is OK ( pierce height , pierce delay time , cutting height , air pressure ...etc) . i note that i can reach the recommended speed in the manual at the midday (warm weather ) . is this happen because of very cool air (out from freezer) or wrong filtration system (water in the air line into the cutter). i use a homebuilt air dryer as attached , nowadays i put the exchanger out of the freezer to have a little bit cool air .
i need to increase the speed up to good cutting because a have a lot of cuts every day and no care about the quality . (8 h a day )
an advice ?
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sorry Mr jim for my delay to reply ,
yes i use Chinese consumable, because i can not find a way to buy them from hypertherm distributors ( they do not care a bout low quantity customers orders ). in case i use genuine Hypertherm consumables , could this happen because there is an issue with the air line inside the hypertherm like, oil , rust , a piece of sand . i say that because i have doubts about my air filtration system causing to low the pressure after the sensor of the pressure in the outlet without be read as low pressure from the machine .
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You will not achieve the correct cutting speed or cut quality with non genuine consumables. If you contact me directly with your address and contact information....I will have a sales agent contact you to help you get the correct consumables.

Jim Colt jim.colt@hypertherm.com
hardsteel wrote:sorry Mr jim for my delay to reply ,
yes i use Chinese consumable, because i can not find a way to buy them from hypertherm distributors ( they do not care a bout low quantity customers orders ). in case i use genuine Hypertherm consumables , could this happen because there is an issue with the air line inside the hypertherm like, oil , rust , a piece of sand . i say that because i have doubts about my air filtration system causing to low the pressure after the sensor of the pressure in the outlet without be read as low pressure from the machine .
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i hvae sent to you all my contact info , but no answer from you since last your reply , as i told you i am in hurry and unfortunately no feedback for ( Hyertherm ) .
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I forwarded your information to our international sales department last Thursday?..you will be hearing from someone soon regarding the consumables.

The Chinese consumables for the Powermax systems are copies of our patented designs. They are of poor quality in terms of materials, manufacturing techniques and vary dimensionally. Of particular concern is the electrode and the nozzle design?.which will allow too much heat buildup in the torch body?.this can damage the body and will ultimately require replacement.

Keep me informed of your progress?.and once you get the correct consumable parts I will be happy to help you with any cut quality issues. It is useless to try to get poor quality consumables to work in your system!

Best regards, Jim Colt

hardsteel wrote:i hvae sent to you all my contact info , but no answer from you since last your reply , as i told you i am in hurry and unfortunately no feedback for ( Hyertherm ) .
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im having the same issue but am using hypertherm consumables. for the most part it only happens when i cut a large file containing several nested parts. i was thinking that it could possibly be caused by my thc not reacting fast enough?
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thank you Mr jim for your help , a have a question about the consumable the hypertherm sales , is it just come in a kit or can chose and order parts in quantity as i want ? . as you told me maybe the torch has damaged, so do you advice me to order a new powermax 85 torch with consumable As a precaution to solve the problem completely or i need to order an other part with like power supplier or something else ? and do you advice me to replace it with mechanized torch ? , in case yes, what is the product code for mechanized torch(10.2m) for plasmacam system .
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You can buy individual consumables or you can buy consumable kits. The best bet for the torch part number is to speak with our sales people that will be contacting you. The part numbers will be dependant on the style of torch that you want.....we have different lead lengths, different torch sizes (mini torch and full lenth torch) we have 15 degree and robotic torches as well. All of the part numbers and breakdowns are listed in the operators manual that you recieved with the plasma system as well.

I use the mini machine torch with a SnapnCut magnetic breakaway mount on my PlasmaCam. The torch part number with a 10.7 M lead is 059483, the SnapnCut mount is available from http://www.snapncut.com . I have attached a picture of my torch as mounted on my PlasmaCam.

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hardsteel wrote:thank you Mr jim for your help , a have a question about the consumable the hypertherm sales , is it just come in a kit or can chose and order parts in quantity as i want ? . as you told me maybe the torch has damaged, so do you advice me to order a new powermax 85 torch with consumable As a precaution to solve the problem completely or i need to order an other part with like power supplier or something else ? and do you advice me to replace it with mechanized torch ? , in case yes, what is the product code for mechanized torch(10.2m) for plasmacam system .
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thanks jim for your support .
from your last reply should understand that no need to order an other thing like power supplier to solve my problem?, (as i told you we need just to reach the cutting speed on the hypertherm book ) .
i have attached some photos of the torch to give you an idea about the situation .
best regards .
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