Best Slat shape - pros and cons
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Best Slat shape - pros and cons
So what's the best shape for table slats?
When I rebuilt my table I made the slats slightly curved - they had been straight, but they are conventional rather than the 'pointed spikey' ones I see in some designs.
So what do you think is the best slat shape ?
I ask as yesterday I was cutting some 6 mm plate, and one of the curves almost exactly corresponded to the curve of the slats for about 10 inches so the plasma wasn't emerging below the plate and sparks were going everywhere It occurred to me at the time that if I'd had the pointy shape this wouldn't have mattered so much.
I'm going to have to sort out a few trashed slats soon so an opportunity is coming up to change, but I'd welcome your views.
When I rebuilt my table I made the slats slightly curved - they had been straight, but they are conventional rather than the 'pointed spikey' ones I see in some designs.
So what do you think is the best slat shape ?
I ask as yesterday I was cutting some 6 mm plate, and one of the curves almost exactly corresponded to the curve of the slats for about 10 inches so the plasma wasn't emerging below the plate and sparks were going everywhere It occurred to me at the time that if I'd had the pointy shape this wouldn't have mattered so much.
I'm going to have to sort out a few trashed slats soon so an opportunity is coming up to change, but I'd welcome your views.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
I think some posted a DXF file to cut the pointy ones some time back. I just use flat one that have a curve to them, you may have hit the one in a thousand that matched your slat
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
Just flat ones. I keep extras sheared under the table and replace as necessary. Just replaced all my slats after 2-1/2 years of cutting. They were flipped over once also.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
Yes I have a full set of plain ones 'ready' leaning against the wall for when needed.
I'm slightly surprised that no one has yet chirped up in favour of the pointy ones - I would welcome comments from anyone using them.
I'm slightly surprised that no one has yet chirped up in favour of the pointy ones - I would welcome comments from anyone using them.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
Pointed slats are good only if all of the parts you are cutting are large enough so that they will not tip up and become a collision hazard. In 95% of the cases, flat slats ate better. Since a lot of parts you cut are rectangular...then it makes sense to install your slats in a diagonal of a serpentine pattern. Serpentine is usually best because it minimizes the chance of the slats wobbling / vibrating which will show as extreme roughness on your cut parts.
Industrial plasma cutting CAM software made by Hypertherm (ProNest 2017) has collision avoidance features that ensure that pierce points are placed and traversing is done in a manner that the torch never drives over an already cut part that may be tipped up. The software also lifts the torch higher between cuts if there is danger of collisions, but keeps the torch close to the material when short traverses are done....this to cut cycle times. This software is used on Industrial cnc Plasma, laser and waterjets....has a lot of features including the ability to link to the companies ERP/ MRP material inventory system. There are versions of ProNest that have features and pricing for smaller cutting operations as well.
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Industrial plasma cutting CAM software made by Hypertherm (ProNest 2017) has collision avoidance features that ensure that pierce points are placed and traversing is done in a manner that the torch never drives over an already cut part that may be tipped up. The software also lifts the torch higher between cuts if there is danger of collisions, but keeps the torch close to the material when short traverses are done....this to cut cycle times. This software is used on Industrial cnc Plasma, laser and waterjets....has a lot of features including the ability to link to the companies ERP/ MRP material inventory system. There are versions of ProNest that have features and pricing for smaller cutting operations as well.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
It takes time to cut the pointy ones with the flat you just cut to length, just stack the flats and cut 5 at a time
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
We run semi pointed slats on all of our plasma and oxy-fuel tables, I can understand the ease and benefits of plain slats,
However we most always cut full sheets and I like the idea that there is less surface area touching the bottom of the sheets being cut, makes for less chance of spikes in arc voltage when crossing over a slat with plasma. It still happens just not as often.
As for manufacture of the slats , we simply run then through our square headed notcher set for the depth of the valley we want.
Takes about 30 minutes to punch out a set for a 10 foot table.
One of our employees has a 4x8 table at his home shop he just free hand cut his with some kind of a jig.
However we most always cut full sheets and I like the idea that there is less surface area touching the bottom of the sheets being cut, makes for less chance of spikes in arc voltage when crossing over a slat with plasma. It still happens just not as often.
As for manufacture of the slats , we simply run then through our square headed notcher set for the depth of the valley we want.
Takes about 30 minutes to punch out a set for a 10 foot table.
One of our employees has a 4x8 table at his home shop he just free hand cut his with some kind of a jig.
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I just use flat ones, sheer them to size....I dont bother cutting them with the plasma. I purchase a couple sheets and have my supplier shear them on their shear (cuz I don't have one big enough....yet.) Takes them just a couple minutes to do and they are nice and flat. Just pick them up and install. Put the rest on the side for change outs when needed. I have them made a little oversized so they have to bend to be installed, this helps minimize slat wave (slats moving when the gantry moves causing wiggle cuts in your part) which can be a nightmare.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
4x4 feet working area with water tub. 16ga steel slats.
Mine are all sheared flat slats that are set in a curve to give additional stability. Cheap and easy to make and can be flipped to use other edge.
Slats can be set on a 2" spacing or install every other slat for a 4" spacing. Simple and functional.
Mine are all sheared flat slats that are set in a curve to give additional stability. Cheap and easy to make and can be flipped to use other edge.
Slats can be set on a 2" spacing or install every other slat for a 4" spacing. Simple and functional.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
New Here... I've Spent a lot of time in the shop with CNC Tables. I Really like the pointed cross grid slats.AndrewMawson wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:51 am Yes I have a full set of plain ones 'ready' leaning against the wall for when needed.
I'm slightly surprised that no one has yet chirped up in favour of the pointy ones - I would welcome comments from anyone using them.
Not very easy at all to line up the sheet when loading, and real crappy to remove the Skeleton after.
Point I'm Getting at is to me its all about the parts your cutting and the quality of them. Who wants to cut parts twice or
multiple replacements from lifting, dropping parts... Head crashes ETC....
I would love to see your dxf designs for your slats... I'm wanting to do an interlocking setup.
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
Hello
This is my version, the water is 200 mm below the top edge.
Suction is carried out on the sides above the water.
There is a welded version and a bent version, there is always something for scrap.
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This is my version, the water is 200 mm below the top edge.
Suction is carried out on the sides above the water.
There is a welded version and a bent version, there is always something for scrap.
Peter
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Re: Best Slat shape - pros and cons
Peter interesting concept, I can see for larger and thicker metal parts that would be very useful and the clean up easier. Thanks for sharing, I have seen pointy slates before but yours seem to be a better method. It looks like the cross bracing is below the water level and that causes the slag to cool before landing on them and does not stick as bad.
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