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I went up to Missouri to help a friend with his table. Then I swung over to Clever, MO to visit with some friends. Well, Springfield MO isn't far away, and I cannot get so close to Springfield without dropping into Grizzly Tools to see if there is anything I cannot live without.

So there it was, in the "Scratch-n-Dent" department with the most minimal dents in the metal cabinet ... but enough of a dent to take $800.00 off of the price! I picked this baby up for $3,500.00, and bought four additional sanding belts of 60, 100, 120, and 220 grit, for variety.

I just unloaded it from my truck tonight. I am anxious to see how this behaves with 14 gauge steel.

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DANG, JOE. You're going to have to build another building if you keep getting more toys!

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abmetal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:50 pm DANG, JOE. You're going to have to build another building if you keep getting more toys!

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I have two shops, a metal shop and a wood shop. The wood shop is affectionately known as the "FrankenBarn." It began as an idea for a 600 sq. ft. wood shop on a concrete pad. That was the concept. A simple 20'x30' single level building. Well, when we began to work on the project we added this ... and that ... and that too ... and as long as we did that, it only made sense to add this as well ... :wink:

It turned into a 6,096 sq. ft. four-level building with a full walking attic and a basement. :Wow It will also have an elevator that moves from the basement to the attic. I'm an old dude! I don't do the hand-truck-up-the-stairway stuff anymore. :HaHa

The 32'x48' basement has 9' walls, 10" thick. At the surface, another 12'x32' pad was poured, to make the ground level 32'x60'

I did not intend for the second floor guest bedrooms. But he showed up with these LONG 6"x6" poles, and said he would cut them down. I said, "Oh, Hell no! Let's just add another floor!" Then the attic was an afterthought, for storage space.

180 sheets of 3/4" exterior plywood for the floors. The ground level has a double layer, 1-1/2" thick.

At today's wood prices, I would not be able to AFFORD to build this thing.
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abmetal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:50 pm DANG, JOE. You're going to have to build another building if you keep getting more toys!

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Already planned ... :HaHa This extension WAS going to house four Samson 510 CNC plasma tables, with the guest bedrooms and classroom on the upper floor of the FrankenBarn. I was setting up a PlasmaCam Bed-n-Breakfast Seminar training center. I actually purchased four tables from PlasmaCam, but I told them to refund my money when we had a "falling out" several years ago. I may still do this, but it would be next year before I could begin the project.

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Hmmm, might take a little longer but you're still gonna run out of room.

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Sadly, the only thing I have run out of is motivation. I am trying to get excited about this stuff again. It isn't that I cannot do it. it is that I just don't care much about anything any longer. People tell me to "just find something that makes you happy and do that..."

I am watching this country float uncontrolled down the center of a deep and wide river toward a high waterfall just ahead. We are picking up speed, and we will soon teeter over the edge and crash onto the rocks far below. Despite my dire warnings about what lies ahead, and my efforts to get people to grab paddles to help navigate America to the shore before we reach the falls, it seems that everyone is hopelessly focused on the pretty flowers along the river banks.

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You sure hit the nail on the head there! I've always tried to keep the attitude that I'm kinda like a baby goose.....every day is a new experience, but it's gettin tougher. I guess I'm just gettin too old.

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I have scheduled two small motorcycle rallies in the coming weeks. I have joined the SCRC (Southern Cruisers Riding Club) so I can get out on my Goldwing once in a while and enjoy life. There is a gathering in Maysville, KY this coming week, and a bigger rally in Johnson City, TN later in June. I have signed up for both of them. Sadly, I am going alone. What can I say? Sandra Bullock turned me down, and Cameron Diaz won't return my calls :lol: :roll: :Sad

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Maybe I will plug in the sander in July ???

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Joe Jones wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:32 pm I went up to Missouri to help a friend with his table. Then I swung over to Clever, MO to visit with some friends. Well, Springfield MO isn't far away, and I cannot get so close to Springfield without dropping into Grizzly Tools to see if there is anything I cannot live without.

So there it was, in the "Scratch-n-Dent" department with the most minimal dents in the metal cabinet ... but enough of a dent to take $800.00 off of the price! I picked this baby up for $3,500.00, and bought four additional sanding belts of 60, 100, 120, and 220 grit, for variety.

I just unloaded it from my truck tonight. I am anxious to see how this behaves with 14 gauge steel.

Joe

http://www.grizzly.com/products/shop-fo ... nder/w1678

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Pretty sure this one is intended for wood only. There have been some discussions on some of the forums about attempts to use the wood sanders for metal by reversing the rotation of the drum or belt (I don't remember which). I will be anxious to find out your results attempting to use this one for metal, in particular dross removal. Good luck.
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I have a wood shop and a metal shop. I hope it will work. I cannot imagine that the machine knows the difference between a wood surface and a metal surface. If the metal is run through and the paper just skims the top surface, I believe it will work fine. Time will tell!

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Joe Jones wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:20 am I have scheduled two small motorcycle rallies in the coming weeks. I have joined the SCRC (Southern Cruisers Riding Club) so I can get out on my Goldwing once in a while and enjoy life. There is a gathering in Maysville, KY this coming week, and a bigger rally in Johnson City, TN later in June. I have signed up for both of them. Sadly, I am going alone. What can I say? Sandra Bullock turned me down, and Cameron Diaz won't return my calls :lol: :roll: :Sad

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I just KNOW she is out there ... somewhere! :lol:

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She is indeed out there. If you see her could you find out what she did with my kidney?
I did not enjoy waking up in that ice bath 1 star experience...
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cstroke wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:48 am She is indeed out there. If you see her could you find out what she did with my kidney?
I did not enjoy waking up in that ice bath 1 star experience...
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Oh, yes! I MET HER! "Anna" ,,, at a campground on a motorcycle tour in 2012. Without going into great detail, I slept in my tent with my GLOCK at my side that night. I didn't want to wake up at 3:00 AM with her over me, stabbing me with a butcher knife yelling, "I! DON'T! TAKE! REJECTION! WELL!!!" :shock:

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:HaHa :HaHa ooooohhhh Joe
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Did you end up trying out that sander on dross removal?
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I have not even plugged it in to see it in action. Time ... Time ... Time ... I really do need a helper!

At the moment, the pressure is on me to produce the Halloween props they will need for the cemetery, about 20 large tombstones, and some breathing walls, and a few other nifty things.

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Did you ever try this out??? I'm curious about the wood sander on metal too
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The sander remains a virgin in my shop at the moment, along with about 30 other machines and tools that have been ADDED since the Covid zombie apocalypse but not yet put into service. I have not had a helper since December of 2021. I do have a helper now , or at least a POTENTIAL helper. It remains to be seen, if this arrangement pans out.

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I've been looking at the one you have and this Baileigh one... They are roughly the same price, but the shop fox one is a little wider and has 6" drums vs 5" drums. Also the Shop fox has a bigger motor. any chance you could plug it in and see how it works to help me make up my mind?

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Indycrawler wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:37 pm the Shop fox has a bigger motor. any chance you could plug it in and see how it works to help me make up my mind?
Neither one of my shops is functional at the moment. I have to set EVERYTHING up again, and get it all back online. I have not used the sander yet, along with about 40 other tools and machines I have added to my bag-o-tricks since the covid zombie apocalypse fooled so many people into being scared of the air. :Wow

I have since acquired a 37" wide belt sander from a government auction, and that one is more likely to be put into service first, before I ever get to the shop Fox unit.

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