Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
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Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
Hey,
So I bought a nice used PM85 back in November. Unit runs great and is in good condition except for the air filter bowl. The fitting for the bottom of hte bowl used to drain anything is missing, so it leaks a bit. Now I can get by with it on short cuts since I kind of plugged it, but it isn't a good permanent fix. The bowl is the older style bowl with the metal guard (PN 428015) which I found out is really SMC part # AD38N-Z-X445. Problem is it is not made for Hypertherm anymore and the newer style air filter from Hypertherm requires a completely new assembly (428352), the new bowl does not fit the old assembly (It's close but not interchangeable). The only place I have found to sell the old one is SMC but they have a minimum order quantity that just the bowl does not meet.
Anyone else run into this issue and found a reasonable solution? I heard the replacement filter assembly is not only a pain to replace, partially because you have to open up the unit (which I prefer not to do when it is otherwise working wonderfully) but it is pricey.
So I bought a nice used PM85 back in November. Unit runs great and is in good condition except for the air filter bowl. The fitting for the bottom of hte bowl used to drain anything is missing, so it leaks a bit. Now I can get by with it on short cuts since I kind of plugged it, but it isn't a good permanent fix. The bowl is the older style bowl with the metal guard (PN 428015) which I found out is really SMC part # AD38N-Z-X445. Problem is it is not made for Hypertherm anymore and the newer style air filter from Hypertherm requires a completely new assembly (428352), the new bowl does not fit the old assembly (It's close but not interchangeable). The only place I have found to sell the old one is SMC but they have a minimum order quantity that just the bowl does not meet.
Anyone else run into this issue and found a reasonable solution? I heard the replacement filter assembly is not only a pain to replace, partially because you have to open up the unit (which I prefer not to do when it is otherwise working wonderfully) but it is pricey.
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
That sucks. I have an older and newer PM65 and the bowls are different on them, never knew that.
I googled your SMC part number and it looks like you can buy it online. Can you just but it and use the bowl?
I googled your SMC part number and it looks like you can buy it online. Can you just but it and use the bowl?
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
Only place I have found to buy it is directly from SMC and there is a minimum buy fee making it nearly $100. At that rate I might as well buy the new unit where I can get parts for awhile.
Did you find it somewhere else?
Did you find it somewhere else?
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
https://www.smcpneumatics.com/AD38N-Z-X445.html
It doesn't say anything about a minimum order. It does say there is an additional $6 charge for orders under $75.
Also found these places.
https://automationdistribution.com/smc- ... pack-of-1/
https://www.ipneumatics.com/AD38N-Z-X445.html
https://www.ocpneumatics.com/smc-ad38n- ... ir-filter/
It doesn't say anything about a minimum order. It does say there is an additional $6 charge for orders under $75.
Also found these places.
https://automationdistribution.com/smc- ... pack-of-1/
https://www.ipneumatics.com/AD38N-Z-X445.html
https://www.ocpneumatics.com/smc-ad38n- ... ir-filter/
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
another supplier for the filter better prices, but seems they only have the bowl (bottom section)
https://www.alliedelec.com/product/smc- ... /70072076/
https://www.alliedelec.com/product/smc- ... /70072076/
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
That place says it's discontinued and has 0 in stock.
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Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
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Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
This is what i was talking about, seems that is what the OP wanted.
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Hypertherm PM65 Machine Torch
Drag Knife and Scribe
Miller Mig welder
13" metal lathe
Small Mill
Everlast PowerTig 255 EXT
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Drag Knife and Scribe
Miller Mig welder
13" metal lathe
Small Mill
Everlast PowerTig 255 EXT
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
Ahh. Yeah, that does look better. The link you posted above must have been for the whole assembly. $12 looks like a steal. I probably should order a spare.
2014 Bulltear (StarLab) 4x8
C&CNC EtherCut
Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
C&CNC EtherCut
Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
did it work i need one so im about to order it lol
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Re: Air Filter Bowl Issues on PM85
No idea. Looks like it's been over 3 years ago. If you order one, you'll have to let us know if it fits.
2014 Bulltear (StarLab) 4x8
C&CNC EtherCut
Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
C&CNC EtherCut
Mach3, SheetCam, Draftsight
Hypertherm PM65
Oxy/Acetylene Flame Torch
Pneumatic Plate Marker, Ohmic, 10 inch Rotary Chuck (in progress)
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