Cut speed concerns
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Cut speed concerns
Using a CNC Tracker table and Thermal Dynamics 2500 (not sure on the model #??) Cutting small to average size signs from 14 ga with a 40 amp tip. If we go by the TD book it calls for 103 - 105 amps and approx 120 ipm (going by memory). At that speed it leave BIG TIME dross on the back, in order to get the best cut and less dross we need to run at approx 50% speed of the book????????????? this seems to put alot more heat into the material and find even 14 ga material is warping during the cut. We also seem to be going thru consumables like crazy? I see posts on here about cut speeds at 140, 180...etc..... no way I could cut at that speed, OR am I missing something?
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Re: Cut speed concerns
Just shooting from the hip:
The torch itself is a SL100? You say you are going through consumables, when you change the consumables, what are you changing? Just the nozzle or ? What is your input air pressure ? Any kinks or obstructions in the hose ? How is your air quality? Dirty air will kill consumables in a heart beat.
How old is the torch body? Have you measured its' resistance ?
The torch itself is a SL100? You say you are going through consumables, when you change the consumables, what are you changing? Just the nozzle or ? What is your input air pressure ? Any kinks or obstructions in the hose ? How is your air quality? Dirty air will kill consumables in a heart beat.
How old is the torch body? Have you measured its' resistance ?
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Re: Cut speed concerns
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Re: Cut speed concerns
Hey saltydog
Typically reducing cut speed will increase dross formation however you are seeing the opposite. Some good comments have already been left here for you however I would like to speak with you to confirm your setup and help you get to the bottom of your dross issue quickly. If you could call me from the Tracker system we can check a few things out and find out what's going on. Call me toll free at 1-800-590-7804 ext 2 when you have a chance.
Typically reducing cut speed will increase dross formation however you are seeing the opposite. Some good comments have already been left here for you however I would like to speak with you to confirm your setup and help you get to the bottom of your dross issue quickly. If you could call me from the Tracker system we can check a few things out and find out what's going on. Call me toll free at 1-800-590-7804 ext 2 when you have a chance.
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Re: Cut speed concerns
You need to follow the specs in the manual....make sure all of the right consumables are in the torch. 40 amps will cut 14 ga well if specs are followed. You say the book calls for 103-105 amps......I'm sure you mean volts. (amperage is the cutting power, and it must be set at the book specs for the consumables you are using, in this case 40 amp consumables, so no more than 40 amps is the setting. If your machine has an arc voltage height control....then the voltage listing in the cut chart is a starting voltage to get the torch to material distance correct. The physical cut height is more important than the voltage....so adjust the voltage to achieve the physical cut height listed in the chart. Lower voltage will mean the torch is closer, higher voltage = further away.
When you get dross it is caused by these things:
-Too much power for the material thickness.
-wrong consumables
-Cut speed too slow, increase speed until dross minimizes...maybe 10 ipm at a time. On 14 gauge at 40 amps you probably will see this occur at 175 to 225 ipm.
-dross is also caused by the torch to work distance being too high.
I would offer more help, but my experience is with the Hypertherm torches, not so much with Thermal Dynamics.
Jim Colt Hypertherm
When you get dross it is caused by these things:
-Too much power for the material thickness.
-wrong consumables
-Cut speed too slow, increase speed until dross minimizes...maybe 10 ipm at a time. On 14 gauge at 40 amps you probably will see this occur at 175 to 225 ipm.
-dross is also caused by the torch to work distance being too high.
I would offer more help, but my experience is with the Hypertherm torches, not so much with Thermal Dynamics.
Jim Colt Hypertherm
saltydog wrote:Using a CNC Tracker table and Thermal Dynamics 2500 (not sure on the model #??) Cutting small to average size signs from 14 ga with a 40 amp tip. If we go by the TD book it calls for 103 - 105 amps and approx 120 ipm (going by memory). At that speed it leave BIG TIME dross on the back, in order to get the best cut and less dross we need to run at approx 50% speed of the book????????????? this seems to put alot more heat into the material and find even 14 ga material is warping during the cut. We also seem to be going thru consumables like crazy? I see posts on here about cut speeds at 140, 180...etc..... no way I could cut at that speed, OR am I missing something?
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Re: Cut speed concerns
Also make sure you have an A series manual. some LWS's sell the cutmaster with a machine torch instead of the A series. the cut charts are different.
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Re: Cut speed concerns
thanks to all the responses... as it turns out the issues were with the machine,,,,Gantry in particular... Thanks to Justin's tune-up it works AWESOME.... i can now use sigmanest without worrying about screwing up a whole sheet. It did however take too long to get it figured out and fixed. We can now cut by the book with great results