Thermal vs. Hypertherm
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Thermal vs. Hypertherm
I've been told that the Hypertherm XP series has fine cut consumables and that the Hypertherm creates higher quality cuts than Thermal Dynamics...any input from users out there either way?
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Re: Thermal vs. Hypertherm
I have had two TD machines, (never had a HT, so I can't give you any input on them) but I know that when comparing the same size units, TD is usually less expensive and is rated to cut thicker material than the HT. My brother lives next door and has a HT on his table. I think the cuts on his, can get a little bit finer than mine though.
I needed to cut thicker material so I went with TD and have no complaints. I feel that the difference in fine cuts between TD and HT is barely noticeable. I know there's ever been a time that he has made something with his machine that I couldn't. That being said, it's hard to find someone who buys a TD instead of a HT for their CNC table. I think I'm definitely in the minority, although it's been fine for the past 15 years that I've had my table.
If I ever have to replace a machine, I'll get another TD just because I already have a hand torch and machine torch for it, along with my TD consumables and it would save me money. But if my shop ever burnt up and I had to replace everything, I'd probably get a HT just to be able to try them both out.
I needed to cut thicker material so I went with TD and have no complaints. I feel that the difference in fine cuts between TD and HT is barely noticeable. I know there's ever been a time that he has made something with his machine that I couldn't. That being said, it's hard to find someone who buys a TD instead of a HT for their CNC table. I think I'm definitely in the minority, although it's been fine for the past 15 years that I've had my table.
If I ever have to replace a machine, I'll get another TD just because I already have a hand torch and machine torch for it, along with my TD consumables and it would save me money. But if my shop ever burnt up and I had to replace everything, I'd probably get a HT just to be able to try them both out.
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Re: Thermal vs. Hypertherm
I have had both and both cut great when used properly. I find Hypertherm can get you slightly finer cuts however a TD with 30 or 40 amp nozzle an get pretty fine as well they just don't call them "Finecut" like HT does. HT are better built and the TD's can be a little more finicky and have a noisy fan that runs more often but once you get onto using either they are both great machines.
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Re: Thermal vs. Hypertherm
I have never tried a TD but like the 3 Hypertherms that I own. The fine cuts do some amazing work however they may lead to the formation of cobwebs in your work.(1/8" in this case)
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Re: Thermal vs. Hypertherm
Hypertherm hands down. TD may make a fine machine, I think hypertherm under rates cut capacity while TD may somewhat over rate their machines. I recall a post by Jim colt I cant remember where, He was talking about different machines and capacities. One thing I remember is that the PMX85 had more output volts than the TD100. Volts X amps= watts, so by taking the actual wattage output the 85 HT put out more KW than the TD100. Then again I have no experience with TD, maybe I will regret that one day. But for now I am satisfied with my PMX 85, having cut piles of 3/4 and one inch, and today for the first time a 6-1/2 foot long cut in 1-3/4" thick QT100. Cut beautiful
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Re: Thermal vs. Hypertherm
You are exactly right. Jim has had a great write up on this topic. Here is a link to our website where it's discussed in a blog.cutnweld wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:11 pm Hypertherm hands down. TD may make a fine machine, I think hypertherm under rates cut capacity while TD may somewhat over rate their machines. I recall a post by Jim colt I cant remember where, He was talking about different machines and capacities. One thing I remember is that the PMX85 had more output volts than the TD100. Volts X amps= watts, so by taking the actual wattage output the 85 HT put out more KW than the TD100. Then again I have no experience with TD, maybe I will regret that one day. But for now I am satisfied with my PMX 85, having cut piles of 3/4 and one inch, and today for the first time a 6-1/2 foot long cut in 1-3/4" thick QT100. Cut beautiful
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